Welcome to Grit & Grace

Raw Conversations on Self-Trust, Freedom & Fulfillment.

Meet PAM

I'm Pam Rader, joined by Erin Payne and Brian Thiessen — three people who stopped outsourcing our answers to everyone else and started asking better questions instead.

Most advice comes from people who haven't actually done the thing they're advising on. We're not interested in more borrowed wisdom, more therapy speak, or more spiritual bypassing dressed up as healing. Every episode is a real, unfiltered conversation — Erin brings the somatic and nervous-system lens, Brian brings the plain-spoken cowboy logic that cuts straight through the noise, and together we go after the shadow side of the stuff that sounds healthy but isn't: the grace that's really no standards, the boundaries that are really avoidance, the self-love that's really uncoachable.

Because here's the truth:

Life will test you. It will hand you every reason to stop trusting yourself and start looking outside for the answer. But the breaking points aren't where you need rescuing — they're where you rebuild the one thing that actually holds: self-trust.

Grit gets you through it. Grace lets you do it without hating yourself along the way. And when you've got both, plus people willing to tell you the truth, you don't need anyone else's permission to become who you're becoming.

So grab your coffee, pull up a chair, and get ready for conversations that trade comfort for honesty. Your story matters — and so does what you actually do with it.

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